FK8 CTR HPDE Thread

[Dave-ROR]

I'm interested in how your cooling system performs.

It was good for 2 laps or so. I was running the heater full blast in the car and it stayed around 3/4 on the gauge maybe slightly higher.

Stability control (assumption) DESTROYED the rear pads though..

[aw614]

Can you feel if stability control is still on even when it says "off"?

[voiddweller]

It was nice meeting up at Pitt Race ... Ed

Same here! Thanks for making the trip to hang out!

I'm interested in how your cooling system performs.

Water temperature was pegged at a bar or two below max hot. Turning the heater on full blast lowered it a bit but turned my ankles and feet into barbecue Dave can keep me honest here, but I think we did a total of nine 30 minute sessions and one 45 minute session. I logged a case with Honda America and will be taking it to a local dealer after I replace the front tires and a rear rotor. One of the rear pads was totally destroyed and gouged the rotor. There was no wear indicator. We ran with VSA on and think it caused the rear brakes to be applied too often.

[voiddweller]

Can you feel if stability control is still on even when it says "off"?

I didn't run with it off. Dave might have done one session with it off right before the rear brakes went on vacation.

[ayau]

I’m guessing rear inside brakes are applied automatically to help the car rotate.

Maybe running with traction off will disable it.

[Dave-ROR]

Can you feel if stability control is still on even when it says "off"?

Yes. Off isn't off.

There is a procedure to actually turn it off, but the rear brake issue prevented me from trying it.

Process:
1. Turn car on.
2. Turn off the parking brake
3. Press and hold the brake pedal
4. Turn traction control off and then back on
5. Release brake pedal
6. Turn the parking brake on
7. Turn traction control off and then back on
8. Press and hold the brake pedal
9. Turn traction control off and then back on

The traction control/vsa light will stay on and a second light next to it will flash.

The direction I received had "Turn traction control on and then back off" but they meant the light, above I'm referring to "off" being "Stability Control VSA off" vs the light being off (which is VSA ON).

[ayau]

Can you feel if stability control is still on even when it says "off"?

Yes. Off isn't off.

There is a procedure to actually turn it off, but the rear brake issue prevented me from trying it.

Process:
1. Turn car on.
2. Turn off the parking brake
3. Press and hold the brake pedal
4. Turn traction control off and then back on
5. Release brake pedal
6. Turn the parking brake on
7. Turn traction control off and then back on
8. Press and hold the brake pedal
9. Turn traction control off and then back on

The traction control/vsa light will stay on and a second light next to it will flash.

The direction I received had "Turn traction control on and then back off" but they meant the light, above I'm referring to "off" being "Stability Control VSA off" vs the light being off (which is VSA ON).

Thanks for that info.

When are you going to trade your RS for a CTR?

[voiddweller]

Here is some additional info on VSA for the CTR from Honda. There's a small section on the +R mode. There was another CTR that ran with VSA disabled per Dave's instructions above and the driver mentioned that it felt better in the corners but his top speed and/or boost was reduced. I couldn't find any mention of this in the Honda documentation. I'm going to speak with him a bit more later this week.

[Dave-ROR]

Can you feel if stability control is still on even when it says "off"?

Yes. Off isn't off.

There is a procedure to actually turn it off, but the rear brake issue prevented me from trying it.

Process:
1. Turn car on.
2. Turn off the parking brake
3. Press and hold the brake pedal
4. Turn traction control off and then back on
5. Release brake pedal
6. Turn the parking brake on
7. Turn traction control off and then back on
8. Press and hold the brake pedal
9. Turn traction control off and then back on

The traction control/vsa light will stay on and a second light next to it will flash.

The direction I received had "Turn traction control on and then back off" but they meant the light, above I'm referring to "off" being "Stability Control VSA off" vs the light being off (which is VSA ON).

Thanks for that info.

When are you going to trade your RS for a CTR?

I liked the CTR, especially when it comes to the seats. The RS has more features, I bet it's at least as fast at the track, mine has consumed FAR less at the track over more track days and doesn't overheat the coolant.

So... never?

[Dave-ROR]

Here is some additional info on VSA for the CTR from Honda. There's a small section on the +R mode. There was another CTR that ran with VSA disabled per Dave's instructions above and the driver mentioned that it felt better in the corners but his top speed and/or boost was reduced. I couldn't find any mention of this in the Honda documentation. I'm going to speak with him a bit more later this week.

I'd be curious on Patrick's corner speeds. He could exit with more boost but if it were spinning the tires or the car was more upset at entry through apex it could have accounted for the lower max speeds. I would think that he would have noticed that, but data would be huge in figuring that out.