Best lowering springs?

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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by ITR822 » Thu May 31, 2018 1:44 am

Hey guys, sorry been busy and not checking the forum lately. I had H&R’s on my CW (don’t know which type honestly) I bought he car with them on. Was too low for my liking. I’m looking for a stiffer lowering spring, something that uses the OEM shock, and something that will be stiff enough for some windy back road cornering every once and a while. Trying to spend the least for the most (aren’t we all) not familiar with lowering springs as i usually don’t modify my ITR’s.

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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by Klasse » Thu May 31, 2018 5:16 pm

Also interested in this. I have Neuspeed Sport (slight drop, not the lower Race type) on stock shocks. From memory the OEM was only slightly softer and higher. Depending on opinions they might be worth considering.
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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by DC2Iggy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:39 am

I had the Eibach Pro-Kit springs on my old 00 GSR. It was just over an inch drop front and rear and were stiffer than the oem springs. They came with the car so I'm not sure how long they were on there for but I eventually had to replace my rear struts because they started to leak oil. Replaced them with Koni Yellows and Pro-Kit and drove like that for about a year before getting the Ground Control sleeves. The Pro-Kits are a progressive spring so it will feel softer during daily driving but will stiffen up once you start pushing the car harder. The custom Koni/GC combo drove so much nicer on the streets and allowed for full height adjustment.

If your struts have seen a lot of miles I would recommend just upgrading to the Koni/GC combo right off the bat and not have to deal with replacing things a bunch of times.

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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by Dave7CDMTYPER » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:18 am

I had a set of koni/gc suspension. I regret selling. They were on the stiffest setting which was too stiff for the street. But I should have played around with them to test other settings/heights.

Right now I have mugen low downs. They are superb, and lower the car more in the front than the rear. I think mugen engineering knew what they were doing. They ride a bit stiffer than oem.
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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by g3teg97 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:23 am

My only gripe with the Koni shocks are they don't include the bracket for the brake line. You have to take off the stock one from what I've seen and it's a lite bit of a pain. Unless I'm missing something, which could be, but that really turns me off on the Koni shocks.

I'm actually looking into KW variant 3 coilovers for rebound and compression adjustments. Might be overkill for me but they are $1800 on Tire Rack and I can always grow into them. I do agree with a previous reply about just going with a shock/spring setup right off the bat, so you're not having to go back in there and replace the shocks if they leak after a while (sort of my thinking with coils, after going through quite a bit of springs/shocks in my old LS prior to the ITR).

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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by aw614 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:38 am

Bilsteins are the same way with the bracket, it isnt hard to knock them out, but PB blaster and a florida car probably made things easier...
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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by DC2Iggy » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:05 am

No issues removing the bracket either. All you need is some PB blaster, a socket extension and a hammer. My only complaint with the Konis is the paint finish. After 1 winter on my previous ones the paint had chipped off in a number of places and the strut started to rust up. I wish they would anodize them instead. Hard to find something on the market that is as good as the koni/gc combo and in that same price range.

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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by coolhandluke » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:56 am

ITR822 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 1:44 am Hey guys, sorry been busy and not checking the forum lately. I had H&R’s on my CW (don’t know which type honestly) I bought he car with them on. Was too low for my liking. I’m looking for a stiffer lowering spring, something that uses the OEM shock, and something that will be stiff enough for some windy back road cornering every once and a while. Trying to spend the least for the most (aren’t we all) not familiar with lowering springs as i usually don’t modify my ITR’s.
Thank you for confirming your use case, spirited driving. To recap, your goals are:
-Raise height from H&R's (either through fixed or adjustable springs)
-Increase stiffness
-Economical

I will confirm the ride height and spring rates from the H&R so you can accurately compare options going forward.
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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by coolhandluke » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:58 am

g3teg97 wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:23 am ...I'm actually looking into KW variant 3 coilovers for rebound and compression adjustments. Might be overkill for me but they are $1800 on Tire Rack and I can always grow into them. I do agree with a previous reply about just going with a shock/spring setup right off the bat, so you're not having to go back in there and replace the shocks if they leak after a while (sort of my thinking with coils, after going through quite a bit of springs/shocks in my old LS prior to the ITR).
This is a different topic than this thread, but excellent topic. Throw up a post and I'l chime in. I don't want to muddy the waters for a daily driver + lowering springs use case with a track + adjustable coil overs discussion.
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Re: Best lowering springs?

Post by g3teg97 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:25 pm

aw614 wrote:Bilsteins are the same way with the bracket, it isnt hard to knock them out, but PB blaster and a florida car probably made things easier...
What's interesting to me is that Tokico and KYB did have this bracket.

I'd think after spending near $500 on nice Koni yellows that it wouldn't look ghetto once installed.

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