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Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:28 pm
by Sort of Fast
Dave-ROR wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:14 pm
Outrun wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:11 pm
I wonder if it's just the Evasive CTR or if all CTRs would overheat in those Buttonwillow conditions.
Others noted similar issues. I think 1 lap by Evasive was the worst case, but I saw others saying a few laps, some saying 6 laps etc at various tracks.
Could primarily be low speed tracks in general, but having been to Buttonwillow I wouldn't think heat would be an issue at all considering it's a pretty fast track. Makes me wonder what the difference is between the FK2 and the FK8. Wonder if the FK2 had issues on release as well? Aren't they similar motors?
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:20 pm
by Zyg
I'll see how it goes @ Road America in early Sept!
Shouldn't be too bad with longer straights and cooler ambient temps.
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:23 pm
by ayau
JeffX from Temple of VTEC:
I spoke to some folks at Honda in Torrance about this today.
They're confident that this is an issue with either a bad part or perhaps a problem during the manufacturing process (somebody installed something improperly, or the wrong part, kinked hose, etc.). Or it could be a part that's failing under stress - a bracket or a clip yielding and allowing a hose to kink.
In other words, this should NOT be happening, and it would not happen in a Civic Type R that is correct.
They are urging everybody who has experienced this problem to get their Type R in to the dealer so that they can pull the codes and establish a VIN range of affected vehicles in hopes of identifying some common thread so they can figure out the root cause of this flaw.
They have done very extensive testing in very hot conditions (all over the world) and have not encountered this issue.
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:39 pm
by Outrun
cheezthis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:14 pm
I haven't seen one in person yet but hope to soon.
I did ask some from AHM about arranging an arrive and drive. We'll see if it goes anywhere...
I can skip out on flying and do a cross country drive in one from Cali to Road America if they need more "testing"!
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:47 pm
by ayau
Zyg wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:20 pm
I'll see how it goes @ Road America in early Sept!
Shouldn't be too bad with longer straights and cooler ambient temps.
What pads and wheels/tires will you be running?
There's no way I'm tracking with 20" tires lol.
I'll probably get some OZ 18x9 in 24/40/18.
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:50 pm
by coolhandluke
ayau wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:47 pm
There's no way I'm tracking with 20" tires lol.
I'll probably get some OZ 18x9 in 24/40/18.
The additional CTR tire options (re: sizes) for the CTR added legwork in producing the Tire Discussion Thread. I had previously capped the information at 17''.
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:01 pm
by Dave7CDMTYPER
This is the Evasive video that's being discussed, in case anyone doesn't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCxjEYL3L8
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:04 pm
by ayau
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:50 pm
ayau wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:47 pm
There's no way I'm tracking with 20" tires lol.
I'll probably get some OZ 18x9 in 24/40/18.
The additional CTR tire options (re: sizes) for the CTR added legwork in producing the Tire Discussion Thread. I had previously capped the information at 17''.
Yeah I did a little research a few weeks back for tire and wheel options.
18" is the smallest that will fit the front Brembos. There are a lot more tire options at 18 than there are 20.
Rpf1 is available in 18x8.5 and is the cheapest track wheel option. OEM wheels are 20x8.5.
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:39 pm
by Zyg
ayau wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:47 pm
What pads and wheels/tires will you be running?
I'm going to switch the tires to Pirelli Trofeo R (softer compound/better tread to void ratio), will bring the stock Conti's as rain tires.
OEM pads, fluid (will bleed and flush a bit in a week or two, presently ~850 miles and I had the brakes smoking once (on purpose) a couple weeks ago (break-in/testing).
The ability of this suspension to absorb road imperfections and even patched roads (here in NE Ohio), is phenomenal (even compared to the Moton 3-ways in my recently sold ITR), and I figure there may be a reason the Honda engineers made these choices (we'll see).
Look for these two at the track:
Re: Civic Type R discussion
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:04 pm
by Dave7CDMTYPER
^That's a sweet lawnmower!