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That yoko tire is bringing out a lot of the SRS BZNS people in their complaining

aw614 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:48 pm That yoko tire is bringing out a lot of the SRS BZNS people in their complaining

Translation?

coolhandluke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:40 pm

aw614 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:48 pm That yoko tire is bringing out a lot of the SRS BZNS people in their complaining

Translation?

Some of the “serious business” autocrossers have grabbed their torches and pitchforks... they’re declaring that the 71R/Rival-S are perfectly reasonable as street tires but these are “too far”. I sorta get the objection as the Yok may be better/faster while wearing faster AND costing more. Having said that, if it meets the rule criteria, I don’t see why it would get booted onto the exclusion list for SCCA.

As far as release dates, I’d expect them awfully damn soon. IIRC, there’s a cutoff for SCCA eligibility in the next few months that they’re going to want to meet. If they miss out, the tires won’t be legal until next year. Personally, I’d keep an eye on TR as they’ll be splitting out the new tire into the Extreme Performance category. I’ll also post back here if I see/hear anything.

I wonder how much faster they'll wear. I wore my RE71rs out in 6 months heavy autocross and some street driving, but my estimate is around 120 to 140 runs on concrete.

Got two fronts to mount on spare wheels thinking it would hold me over til the summer with the worn rears and I corded a rear tire after three events Going to suck it up and buy another set

On the hunt for some new rubber for my track wheels (15x7).

Loved my 71R previously, and held up well with over 25ish cycles. And they were great in heavy rain. Last time I drove the was E17 and they really started to fall off on day two.

Currently on Toyo RR which I also love but they are on the way out after about 20ish cycles. The RR are also a little pricey for me right now so Im thinking about going back to a treaded tire. Plus they are stored in a cold dry garage so they are probably not in the best shape to throw back on this season to finish them off.

A buddy of mine recommended the RS4 as well. Comparably priced to the 71R and he swears by them. The only downside is they dont come in 205/50, they only come in 195 or 225. Supposedly they arent as wide as most 225 so they will work ok on a 7" wheel, he doesnt think they feel mushy.

Thoughts?

Xian wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:32 pm

coolhandluke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:40 pm

aw614 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:48 pm That yoko tire is bringing out a lot of the SRS BZNS people in their complaining

Translation?

Some of the “serious business” autocrossers have grabbed their torches and pitchforks... they’re declaring that the 71R/Rival-S are perfectly reasonable as street tires but these are “too far”. I sorta get the objection as the Yok may be better/faster while wearing faster AND costing more. Having said that, if it meets the rule criteria, I don’t see why it would get booted onto the exclusion list for SCCA.

As far as release dates, I’d expect them awfully damn soon. IIRC, there’s a cutoff for SCCA eligibility in the next few months that they’re going to want to meet. If they miss out, the tires won’t be legal until next year. Personally, I’d keep an eye on TR as they’ll be splitting out the new tire into the Extreme Performance category. I’ll also post back here if I see/hear anything.

Always valuable, thank you!

I'm not in a rush so I can wait until they drop.

RTW DC2R wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:43 am ...A buddy of mine recommended the RS4 as well. Comparably priced to the 71R and he swears by them. The only downside is they dont come in 205/50, they only come in 195 or 225. Supposedly they arent as wide as most 225 so they will work ok on a 7" wheel, he doesnt think they feel mushy.

Thoughts?

I can only speak for RS4's on 15x8''. They felt inline with RS3's, but better in the wet with the new tread design. I've mostly ran RS4's in rain or early mornings in fog, rarely at speed.

I have BFG Rival S 1.5 in 205 on 15X8 rims and RS3's in 205 on a 16X7 the Rivals are hands down better. At Waterford Hills I ran a 1:26.4 with the RS3 in the morning then switched to the Rival in the afternoon after lunch and got to a 1:22:7. There was just so much more grip with the Rival and Waterfords track surface was rough (now repaved). This was not my first time at this track.

coolhandluke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:27 am

RTW DC2R wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:43 am ...A buddy of mine recommended the RS4 as well. Comparably priced to the 71R and he swears by them. The only downside is they dont come in 205/50, they only come in 195 or 225. Supposedly they arent as wide as most 225 so they will work ok on a 7" wheel, he doesnt think they feel mushy.

Thoughts?

I can only speak for RS4's on 15x8''. They felt inline with RS3's, but better in the wet with the new tread design. I've mostly ran RS4's in rain or early mornings in fog, rarely at speed.

How are the RS4s in the cold? I am probably going to run them as my next tire for the s2000. I've run some old RS3s on track and loved them (even for being 4 years old) My only problem with the RS3 was they were like ice when cold. Once on the way to the track, I had a pucker moment getting on an on ramp with the s2000 (40ish degrees out). Wasn't even pushing it, caught me off guard, luckily saved it.

3pedalJohn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:08 pm I have BFG Rival S 1.5 in 205 on 15X8 rims and RS3's in 205 on a 16X7 the Rivals are hands down better. At Waterford Hills I ran a 1:26.4 with the RS3 in the morning then switched to the Rival in the afternoon after lunch and got to a 1:22:7. There was just so much more grip with the Rival and Waterfords track surface was rough (now repaved). This was not my first time at this track.

Were the tires equal in age and wear?