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Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:52 pm
by coolhandluke
krazychowmein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:15 pm
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Ryan B / hondacrb runs a similar kit. I've asked him to chime in.
Thanks! Not much info on the site about this kit. Wonder if it has the same challenges as the ASR kit. My wheel setup is 15X8 +32 TE37's. I'd like to not have to run extended wheel studs with a large spacer but it looks like options are limited.
@hondarcb - not sure I have the resources to customize a kit like you mentioned.
The Alcon is an option I looked into for the money I thought maybe going with the ASR kit but given the challenges I was just curious if anyone had luck with other AP kits over the last 2 years.
Both the RCrew Alcon BBK & ASR BBK require 8mm for +35 TE37's. +32 would require 5mm spacer which I would still recommend running extended lugs. Note, this impacts the rear spacing as well if one wants track width to match front & rear.
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:46 pm
by aw614
krazychowmein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:15 pm
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Ryan B / hondacrb runs a similar kit. I've asked him to chime in.
Thanks! Not much info on the site about this kit. Wonder if it has the same challenges as the ASR kit. My wheel setup is 15X8 +32 TE37's. I'd like to not have to run extended wheel studs with a large spacer but it looks like options are limited.
@hondarcb - not sure I have the resources to customize a kit like you mentioned.
The Alcon is an option I looked into for the money I thought maybe going with the ASR kit but given the challenges I was just curious if anyone had luck with other AP kits over the last 2 years.
Based on his IG, I believe Eric Kutil might be running the fast brakes kit next year for Gridlife Touring Cup. He ran the previous Fastbrakes Stoptech STL kit. He is on 4 lug though and there seems to be a lot more options with wheels that seem to clear the BBKs vs 5 lug wheel options. I would be curious if a Team Dynamics option would work
Based on how much space my 15x8 +35 Enkei PF01s have with Spoon calipers, it wouldn't shock me to see either of these options clear these brakes on my Integra.
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:01 pm
by Dave7CDMTYPER
These AP racing brakes options seem to require 8 inch wheels. Is it the consensus that 7 inch would not fit?
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:46 pm
by coolhandluke
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:01 pm
These
big brake kit options seem to require 8 inch wheels. Is it the consensus that 7 inch would not fit?
It's more about the spoke design. Different wheel designs allow more or less spoke clearance. TE37SL's with low offset tend to allow more clearance, but a +35 still requires 8mm spacer & +32 still require a 5mm spacer with the ASR & RCR kits.
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:26 am
by krazychowmein
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:52 pm
krazychowmein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:15 pm
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Ryan B / hondacrb runs a similar kit. I've asked him to chime in.
Thanks! Not much info on the site about this kit. Wonder if it has the same challenges as the ASR kit. My wheel setup is 15X8 +32 TE37's. I'd like to not have to run extended wheel studs with a large spacer but it looks like options are limited.
@hondarcb - not sure I have the resources to customize a kit like you mentioned.
The Alcon is an option I looked into for the money I thought maybe going with the ASR kit but given the challenges I was just curious if anyone had luck with other AP kits over the last 2 years.
Both the RCrew Alcon BBK & ASR BBK require 8mm for +35 TE37's. +32 would require 5mm spacer which I would still recommend running extended lugs. Note, this impacts the rear spacing as well if one wants track width to match front & rear.
Thanks Ryan. Forgive my ignorance but if I ran the spacers and extended studs does what were you saying about the rear? This would require a spacer and extended studs too to keep the same width in the rear?
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by Dave7CDMTYPER
I believe he was saying to keep in mind that if you put spacers on front wheels, it will increase track width. To maintain symmetry in track width, you might want to put spacers on rear wheels too.
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:25 pm
by krazychowmein
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:33 pm
I believe he was saying to keep in mind that if you put spacers on front wheels, it will increase track width. To maintain symmetry in track width, you might want to put spacers on rear wheels too.
Thanks!
Interestingly enough a fast brakes setup just popped up in the ITR classified Facebook group. Anyone know or able to vouch for the OP?
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:33 pm
by krazychowmein
I can't link the post because it's a private group. Looks like he runs IPG parts -
www.IPGparts.com
Anyone know him?
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:31 pm
by aw614
krazychowmein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:33 pm
I can't link the post because it's a private group. Looks like he runs IPG parts -
www.IPGparts.com
Anyone know him?
I can vouch for him, he's legit. I've met/talked to him at the eibach/hondameet track event at the FIRM up in north Florida. He also posted on the old board too.
Re: Considering "Big Brake" Upgrade - ASR x AP Racing -vs.- ICB / RCrew Racing
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:30 am
by krazychowmein
aw614 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:31 pm
krazychowmein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:33 pm
I can't link the post because it's a private group. Looks like he runs IPG parts -
www.IPGparts.com
Anyone know him?
I can vouch for him, he's legit. I've met/talked to him at the eibach/hondameet track event at the FIRM up in north Florida. He also posted on the old board too.
Thanks Andrew
