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Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:54 pm
by PaulMc
Stin1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:32 pm
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm
Stin1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 pm
That really sucks the bumper support was missing. Why would they do that? Did they remove the charcoal canister as well? Mine was missing and the smell gave me a terrible headache. It would also stink up the garage. Keep the updates coming.
Was it a terrible exhaust/emissions smell? Especially when accelerating hard?
I would compare it to a heavy unburned emissions smell combined with a BBQ with lighter fluid stinch if that makes sense? The smell makes me understand why it's called a charcoal canister.
Makes sense, I experience the same. I have a build up of black particles all over my rear bumper. I even put a completely different swap in to the car, different ecu and completely different exhaust and I'm still getting the same amount black dust all over the back of the car, it has to be fuel, but i can't figure out for the life of me why i can't solve the problem. My fuel mileage is about 27mpg, which i feel could be a lot better. The particles must be fuel but HOW?! I thought it was the canister, so i replaced that as well, then i learned there is another second black canister bolted to the back of the block?
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:57 pm
by PaulMc
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 pm
Sp00nFedFilms wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 pm
PaulMc wrote:What is your exhaust setup from the header back?
JDM ITR 4-1 header
JDM ITR cat (I think. It’s the shorter one)
OEM B pipe
OEM muffler
I'm always curious about the different ways people deal with the secondary O2 sensor (when using jdm cat). What's your setup with that?
My JDM cat has an o2. I think the 96 spec doesn't and the 98 spec does.
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:59 pm
by Stin1
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 pm
Sp00nFedFilms wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 pm
PaulMc wrote:What is your exhaust setup from the header back?
JDM ITR 4-1 header
JDM ITR cat (I think. It’s the shorter one)
OEM B pipe
OEM muffler
I'm always curious about the different ways people deal with the secondary O2 sensor (when using jdm cat). What's your setup with that?
I have the same set up on my hatchback only a ek9 exhaust. It uses a jdm ecu and doesn't use the secondary o2. I tried to use the traditional cheater methods before I got a usdm cat for my integra and I would always get a o2 slow response code. This was with a test pipe, not the jdm shorty. Curious on the ecu and if you have the secondary o2 with this set up?
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:04 am
by Stin1
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:54 pm
Stin1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:32 pm
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm
Was it a terrible exhaust/emissions smell? Especially when accelerating hard?
I would compare it to a heavy unburned emissions smell combined with a BBQ with lighter fluid stinch if that makes sense? The smell makes me understand why it's called a charcoal canister.
Makes sense, I experience the same. I have a build up of black particles all over my rear bumper. I even put a completely different swap in to the car, different ecu and completely different exhaust and I'm still getting the same amount black dust all over the back of the car, it has to be fuel, but i can't figure out for the life of me why i can't solve the problem. My fuel mileage is about 27mpg, which i feel could be a lot better. The particles must be fuel but HOW?! I thought it was the canister, so i replaced that as well, then i learned there is another second black canister bolted to the back of the block?
The black box is on the back of the block on older models. It gets omitted in the us model in 2000 or 2001 . I think it attaches to the pcv valve. It could be a source of oil on the bumper, it isn't attached to the charcoal canister .
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:13 am
by Stin1
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:57 pm
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 pm
Sp00nFedFilms wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 pm
JDM ITR 4-1 header
JDM ITR cat (I think. It’s the shorter one)
OEM B pipe
OEM muffler
I'm always curious about the different ways people deal with the secondary O2 sensor (when using jdm cat). What's your setup with that?
My JDM cat has an o2. I think the 96 spec doesn't and the 98 spec does.
o2? It should have a 1 wire sensor, but it's not a o2. I forget what they are called. The 98 has a light on the cluster for the 98 spec if it gets to hot.
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:25 am
by PaulMc
Stin1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:04 am
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:54 pm
Stin1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:32 pm
I would compare it to a heavy unburned emissions smell combined with a BBQ with lighter fluid stinch if that makes sense? The smell makes me understand why it's called a charcoal canister.
Makes sense, I experience the same. I have a build up of black particles all over my rear bumper. I even put a completely different swap in to the car, different ecu and completely different exhaust and I'm still getting the same amount black dust all over the back of the car, it has to be fuel, but i can't figure out for the life of me why i can't solve the problem. My fuel mileage is about 27mpg, which i feel could be a lot better. The particles must be fuel but HOW?! I thought it was the canister, so i replaced that as well, then i learned there is another second black canister bolted to the back of the block?
The black box is on the back of the block on older models. It gets omitted in the us model in 2000 or 2001 . I think it attaches to the pcv valve. It could be a source of oil on the bumper, it isn't attached to the charcoal canister .
The black box is on the back of my 2001 b18c5.
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:26 am
by PaulMc
Stin1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:13 am
PaulMc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:57 pm
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 pm
I'm always curious about the different ways people deal with the secondary O2 sensor (when using jdm cat). What's your setup with that?
My JDM cat has an o2. I think the 96 spec doesn't and the 98 spec does.
o2? It should have a 1 wire sensor, but it's not a o2. I forget what they are called. The 98 has a light on the cluster for the 98 spec if it gets to hot.
That cluster light is on the 96 spec, not the 98.
edit: it could have been some sort of option for both. My 98 spec didn't have it, but when i search them on ebay both 96 spec and 98 specs have them, although there is a good chance the sellers aren't sure what the actual year of the cluster is.
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:38 am
by Stin1
We probably shouldn't be cluttering spoonfed's thread with tech talk. Lol
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:16 am
by Dave7CDMTYPER
That wire plug in the jdm cat is a temp sensor afaik.
Re: 98-1059 is here to stay
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:37 pm
by Sp00nFedFilms
PaulMc wrote:Sp00nFedFilms wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 pm
PaulMc wrote:What is your exhaust setup from the header back?
JDM ITR 4-1 header
JDM ITR cat (I think. It’s the shorter one)
OEM B pipe
OEM muffler
That's my setup as well because unfortunately i"m unable to source a complete usdm itr set up. Though I'm using a jdm b-pipe because the usdm b pipe is too short for the jdm cat. Yours must be jdm as well for that setup or your b-pipe was modified.
Dave7CDMTYPER wrote:Sp00nFedFilms wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 pm
PaulMc wrote:What is your exhaust setup from the header back?
JDM ITR 4-1 header
JDM ITR cat (I think. It’s the shorter one)
OEM B pipe
OEM muffler
I'm always curious about the different ways people deal with the secondary O2 sensor (when using jdm cat). What's your setup with that?
To be honest. Maybe it’s not the JDM cat the more I think about it. To me it just looked shorter. Maybe aftermarket? They used the sensor in the rear.
And yes. They made some modifications before the B pipe to help with length. Also I made a 3” extension in the rear.
