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Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:21 am
by Gotin
It looks like the passenger side is discontinued though Acura while the driver's side is available. Rockauto offers an assortment that very cheap in comparison. Hardrace makes a product to replace both sides but I am skeptical of their quality (reference the new discussion on the forum). Energy suspension makes inserts as well that can be clamped to any standard product. What do you use and at what level of motorsport does your car function on (track-daily)? Are there alternatives out there that I am missing?
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:38 am
by coolhandluke
Hey BJ, would you be willing to collaborate with Little_Nolan and myself? I foresee this tip of need as a growing trend so we were discussing creating a one-stop shop of bushing options for these cars.
Re: Hard Race = my motor mount experience was negative, they didn't last 10k.
Re: Energy = Poly bushings need to be greased regularly to avoid squeaking.
We could test RockAuto variants. I would start with an OEM MFG of the mounts if pursuing OEM style and ride. A performance alternative could be Hasport:
https://hasport.com/store/index.php/mou ... dc2tb.html
This reminds me I need to fix mine lower torque mounts in the subframe.
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:56 am
by aw614
Can you still get LS/GSR torque mounts? They might be softer, but it is OEM and might be an option.
The Mugen/Spoon mount set comes with torque mounts too
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:58 pm
by Gotin
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:38 am
Hey BJ, would you be willing to collaborate with Little_Nolan and myself? I foresee this tip of need as a growing trend so we were discussing creating a one-stop shop of bushing options for these cars.
Re: Hard Race = my motor mount experience was negative, they didn't last 10k.
Re: Energy = Poly bushings need to be greased regularly to avoid squeaking.
We could test RockAuto variants. I would start with an OEM MFG of the mounts if pursuing OEM style and ride. A performance alternative could be Hasport:
https://hasport.com/store/index.php/mou ... dc2tb.html
This reminds me I need to fix mine lower torque mounts in the subframe.
Absolutely, I can help compile and/or maintain a list of available bushings.
The hasport mount looks like a great option with the "street" density.
aw614 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:56 am
Can you still get LS/GSR torque mounts? They might be softer, but it is OEM and might be an option.
The Mugen/Spoon mount set comes with torque mounts too
Both GSR mounts are listed as available
50841-STO-N10 (right)
50842-STO-N10 (left)
There is an archived HT thread about these being a softer compound and the consensus being to "upgrade to the ITR set" which may have contributed to being discontinued. It also sounded like speculation.
It would be cool if the Mugen or Spoon could be purchased separately.
EDIT: After calling my local Acura dealer (who I never deal with), they report the part is on backorder and
might be able to get it 6/15/20
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:14 pm
by Stin1
Gotin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:58 pm
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:38 am
Hey BJ, would you be willing to collaborate with Little_Nolan and myself? I foresee this tip of need as a growing trend so we were discussing creating a one-stop shop of bushing options for these cars.
Re: Hard Race = my motor mount experience was negative, they didn't last 10k.
Re: Energy = Poly bushings need to be greased regularly to avoid squeaking.
We could test RockAuto variants. I would start with an OEM MFG of the mounts if pursuing OEM style and ride. A performance alternative could be Hasport:
https://hasport.com/store/index.php/mou ... dc2tb.html
This reminds me I need to fix mine lower torque mounts in the subframe.
Absolutely, I can help compile and/or maintain a list of available bushings.
The hasport mount looks like a great option with the "street" density.
aw614 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:56 am
Can you still get LS/GSR torque mounts? They might be softer, but it is OEM and might be an option.
The Mugen/Spoon mount set comes with torque mounts too
Both GSR mounts are listed as available
50841-STO-N10 (right)
50842-STO-N10 (left)
There is an archived HT thread about these being a softer compound and the consensus being to "upgrade to the ITR set" which may have contributed to being discontinued. It also sounded like speculation.
It would be cool if the Mugen or Spoon could be purchased separately.
EDIT: After calling my local Acura dealer (who I never deal with), they report the part is on backorder and
might be able to get it 6/15/20
We can all order more and get them possibly? Are you stating both sides can be ordered but on back order?
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 pm
by Gotin
Left is available
Right is backorder
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 pm
by Little_Nolan
I have hardrace torque mounts - I have not checked to see how they are holding up though
Probably should.
I had a set of energy suspension inserts in 2005ish that held up really well and even survived a serious head on collision the vehicle was involved in. They DID cause vibrations though for sure. I have also used the mugen mounts as parts of the full motor mount kit and they were fantastic but sold with the vehicle and I have no idea how they held up past the 5yr mark.
I have also poured in Urethane to the stock mounts and made my own and that actually worked as well as the ES but by far transmitted the most vibrations to cabin.
We need to start the bushing and mount replacement thread Ryan. This is getting serious.
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:38 am
by coolhandluke
Gotin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:58 pm
...Absolutely, I can help compile and/or maintain a list of available bushings.
The hasport mount looks like a great option with the "street" density.
Little_Nolan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 pm
...We need to start the bushing and mount replacement thread Ryan. This is getting serious.
If one of you can start the thread we can collectively start chipping away. We can use the
suspension tuning & setup thread as a reference for content too.
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:41 pm
by coolhandluke
coolhandluke wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:38 am
Gotin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:58 pm
...Absolutely, I can help compile and/or maintain a list of available bushings.
The hasport mount looks like a great option with the "street" density.
Little_Nolan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 pm
...We need to start the bushing and mount replacement thread Ryan. This is getting serious.
If one of you can start the thread we can collectively start chipping away. We can use the
suspension tuning & setup thread as a reference for content too.
Nathaniel started a master thread here. Next steps are to start a thread focused on suspension bushings & mounts and gather info.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1036
Re: Lower Torque Mounts
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:43 pm
by navin
If you want close to OEM have you looked into the Mugen ones? I can't imagine they ever sold out of them for the price they are.
I'd personally go with the Hasport's, but I've also wanted to swap out my HAsport engine mounts because they look a little out of place in the engine bay.